BayRaider 20 Trailers - info required please

[Andrew Denman]

Hi all,

We have nearly finished the first Aussie BayRaider20 and have been looking at trailers.  The majority of our trailers here in the size we need are suited to 1500kg plus power boats so I am considering a custom build.

I'd appreciate it if any BR20 owners could email me some pics of their trailers and advise what they like/don't like about them - especially in respect to the launch and retrieval process.   Claus has already informed me that the UK trailers are pretty good so any pictures of these with the boat on and off would be appreciated.  My email is andrew@denmanmarine.com.au

regards,

Andrew

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[Julian Swindell]

Andrew
This is the Baycruiser 20, but the trailer needs are the same as the BayRaider. It is a standard Bramber Roller Glide trailer. 16 rollers on the main titing units and a single keel roller underneath about 1/4 of the way back from the bow. The rearmost 8 rollers are on a tilting cradle. If you look on the BayCruiser20 link above you should be able to find a video of her being launched abut 10 minutes after this photo was taken. Launching and recovery is simple and a one man operaiton in about 9 inches of water. Originally I tried an aluminium trailer but one of the roller units broke off... twice... so I rather lost confidence in it.

[Peter Ivermee]

I have a Gullwing aluminium trailer http://www.gullwingtrailers.co.uk/pr-cormorant.html.
It is half the weight of a galvanised one and does not rust.  It also has many more rollers than some traditional models.

[Matt Newland]

Hello All,

I have just added a video of us recovering the BR20 to you tube.
You can see it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqkEvpaafXk

Although it is a little hard to see, there was a strong cross current as the tide ebbed. The swinging cradle trailer is superb at handling these conditions.
Matt

[Graham W]

I have a CLH trailer for my Bayraider with extending arms at the back which hold (or held) the lighting board.  This tended to shake loose and is low enough to scrape on the ground when starting to ascend a steep slope (such as outside my garage).  In addition, because the trailer lights are so low, drivers of a certain nationality that believe in driving 6 inches (15.24 cm) behind in order to, er, benefit from your slipstream (think revenge of the frigate) are probably unable to see them as your transom fills the whole of their vision.

On my way back today after travelling a total of 2,500 miles, I had my only equipment failure in a month of hard sailing and trailing.  Yep, one extending arm fell off completely and the lighting board was unceremoniously dragged end on along the M6.

My conclusion is that the CLH lighting board bracket system is nbg.  I am going to use my swim ladder winglets on the top of the rudder fabrication (see Going for a Swim thread) to attach a robust lighting board bracket.  This will be much higher and thus more visible to tailgaters, will not get in the way on slopes, will not get wet when I forget to demount it, will not vibrate so much that it pops the bulbs and will not fall off under most circumstances.  I will post a picture when it is done.

[Julian Swindell]

I would agree that the low slung lighting board supports are not good. The board on mine is practically invisible. I am plannaing to mount the board just on the transom of the boat next time.

[Graham W]

Here is my new lighting board bracket, attached to my rudder swim ladder winglets.  The big striped board is an Italian legal requirement where something overhangs the back of a trailer/caravan (such as a bike rack) but as far as I know, it is not needed elsewhere.  And even in Italy, I noticed that a lot of people did not bother with it.

The lighting board still bears the scars of its involuntary meeting with the M6.....

[Tony]

  The big striped board is an Italian legal requirement where something overhangs the back of a trailer/caravan (such as a bike rack) but as far as I know, it is not needed elsewhere.  And even in Italy, I noticed that a lot of people did not bother with it.

Hi, Graham.

Re: Red diagonals.
When planning my first trip to Greece I found nothing in the guide-lines  that mentioned these boards. I got away with it for three years before being pulled over on the A14 near Senigallia. I was escorted - blue flashing lights and all - on the hard shoulder, rolling through all sorts of junk, for miles to the next turn-off, a service station, where the police literally stood over me while I bought and fitted, not without difficulty, a candy striped board for Four Sisters pointy rear end. I was pretty ticked off at the time but it appears they did me a favour. An Italian friend tells me I was lucky. Usually, he says, they just run you off the Autostrada and give you an on-the-spot fine of a couple of hundred Euros! He also said that many foriegn motorists meeting with on-the-spot fines assume they are being ripped off by a corrupt cop and refuse to pay. This results in arrest, a night in jail and double the fine!

I have a Bramber trailer (the firm's gone bust now, I believe)and have had similar problems. An extending arm dropped out on its first trip - 60 miles away from Swallow Boats yard - they are now held in place with a short length of string. A mudguard came off after 1,300 miles somewhere on Paxos. (They were only held on with self-tapping screws)
On the plus side Bramber sent a new mudguard to Greece within 3 days of my complaint and the bearings lasted over 20,000 miles (yes that's 4 noughts) at motorway speeds before one started to grumble.  Many people change their bearings every two years as a matter of course so this, apparently, is good going. Hmmmm. Be pretty rubbish on a Nissan Micra, salt water or no salt water!